@KitRedgrave most esoteric languages are still easily convertible from brainfk
i want to make one that is not easy to convert from anything

@boots i both love and hate this

@zyabin101 definitely not a golfing language

@boots then a few words on what that esolang is?

@zyabin101 it's basically an esolang that tries to make working with numbers very, very hard

@zyabin101 you can interpret a number as base 16 (20 => 0x20 => 32) or base 8 (20 => 020 => 16), and switch between odd and even (even numbers get subtracted by one, odd numbers have one added to them)

@zyabin101 and uh
that's it
also, your only possible starting states are 0 and 9

@boots so, (0-1)+1 is 256? I love it

@impiaaa yeah but you cant actually add and subtract in this language
the only way you'll get a negative number right now is trying to make 0 an odd number

@boots ah, ok, that makes sense
(I mean, it doesn't, but that's the point, isn't it)