Can “Indie” Social Media Save Us? - https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/can-indie-social-media-save-us
apparently now the new yorker knows about mastodon
@KitRedgrave wow they seem to think mastodon is part of indieweb (it isn’t and it makes no efforts to interoperate) and they also vastly misstated the purpose and rules of queer.party. Lovely.
@fluffy @KitRedgrave what is indieweb?
@Felthry @KitRedgrave see indieweb.org; short version is it’s a collection of protocols to do federated social media with more of a blogging emphasis, and intended to be easier to get into than activitypub.
@fluffy @Felthry @KitRedgrave huh what uses this protocol? kinda nice to know not everyone is putting their eggs in the ActivityPub basket
@fluffy @Felthry @KitRedgrave so the usual foss mess, gotcha
@Alyx @Felthry @KitRedgrave Well I mean it's a collection of protocols, and so is Mastodon. There are definitely folks working on making integrated suites that actually do it all at once, if that's your concern.
@Alyx @Felthry @KitRedgrave The nice thing about it is that it's easy to add support for its things to other things, and you don't have to do it all at once. Which is very very different than supporting ActivityPub, which needs to be part of the entire stack from the ground up (and STILL doesn't answer all of the questions, like Mastodon uses WebFinger as an important part of its working as well).
@Alyx @Felthry @KitRedgrave Generally-speaking, if things speak WebSub, WebMention, and mf2, they're part of IndieWeb, and adding all of those things to an existing stack is generally pretty easy! mf2 is a matter of adding a few things to your HTML templates, and WebSub/WebMention are trivial to outsource to other services like superfeedr and webmention.io, respectively.
@Alyx @Felthry @KitRedgrave It's not really any single protocol so much as a bunch of stuff that's intended to interoperate on an as-needed basis. Like, Mastodon does accidentally support a couple of its protocols although it's not part of the IndieWeb effort in general.
There are IndieWeb plugins for WordPress, and I wrote a little atom-to-IndieWeb wrapper called Pushl which I use to integrate Publ (my website CMS) into IndieWeb.