What's up with espresso people seemingly only ever considering electric grinders as viable options? Like even when I see people talking about budget espresso setups they'll go like "ok so this is a really good budget grinder, it's only gonna cost you $800" and it's like bro you can simply get a hand grinder that can easily handle espresso for like $50. At a couple hundred dollars you're gonna get the very best of hand grinders and they'll be waaaay more than suitable for dialing in espresso. And like if you're a reasonable person and only drink a few coffees per day you'll only spend a few minutes grinding with a hand grinder anyway, it's really not a big deal. I don't even know why you'd actually need an electric grinder unless you're working in a cafe and need the coffee ground up in seconds. Heck, you can grind your beans by hand while your machine heats up!! I seriously don't get why there's such a strong push for extremely expensive electric grinders..