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@InspectorCaracal fortunately said family member completely agrees with me on this part so it then becomes a soapbox duet, which, as we all know, is integral to all good family Anger Bonding (tm) moments

@InspectorCaracal anyway it's about this point in Said Family Member's soapbox rant about how the majority of AI programming these days is shit that i claim the soapbox for myself, and start yelling about how this is what you get when you divorce STEM completely from the liberal arts and raise graduates on the idea that silly social sciences where you have empathy for other people or look at history and its effects are completely not needed when you have the ability to crunch numbers

@InspectorCaracal the worst part is that for a lot of these social rules, the technology is being developed by people so sheltered and so lazy about it that they do not question if something's a bad choice

they don't know enough to look at, say, AI handling assessing risk of mortgages, to view the results and go "wait a second fellas, i think this is just redlining with extra steps". they go "oh, the computer has shown us the truth!" and are pleased to have their own racism reaffirmed.

@InspectorCaracal the worst part is that this is also pretty popular *within the people programming AI right now*.

neural networking is a cool buzzword that sounds sci-fi and high-tech, and it also processes data in a way that makes it very, very, very hard, if not nigh impossible, to go "okay, i told you to learn the rules of the game. can you tell me what rules you learned?" and have the program show you what it's doing. BUT IT SOUNDS SO COOL IT MUST BE INFALLIBLE..........

quit worrying about if AI is going to be creating new consciousness

start worrying about AI learning how to enforce things like redlining and the glass ceiling

worry about it because *it's happening now*.

basically if people would just carve off 5% of the sci-fi panic and anxiety and spend that energy being legitimately concerned about how if you tell a computer "learn the rules of this game", the rules it will come back to report to you will be dripping with systemic inequality that must be directly confronted instead of excused or praised as infallible because "a passionless computer did it"

we'd all be much better off

WHAT PEOPLE THINK ETHICAL ISSUES IN AI ARE: wow.... we're creating... new life........

WHAT ETHICAL ISSUES IN AI ACTUALLY ARE: techbros worshiping the almighty algorithm, not caring to look at what bad patterns the machines are picking up (racism, sexism, etc) and how to avert them, and overreliance on neural networks meaning that said algorithms are treated as magical black boxes where nobody wants to (or can, really) point out exactly how the equation works (and why it may be faulty)

right i'm going to go long here and, despite not being in tech, toot about a pet peeve i know of because of a family member's specialty in that area

and basically anything more specific and i'll doxx myself lmfao

@NuclearAnxiety_@anarchism.space nope 'cause i'm fuckin' disabled, which also makes me useless to the grand cause apparently

anyway, on an entirely different note, jesus christ i tried to do some trigger point shit with my pec minor and i have only succeeded in making it angrier. if i am murdered in the middle of the night please look for my pectoralis muscles fleeing the scene of the crime

anyway quelle surprise that the official line seems to be "i couldn't kick somebody out just for being unwell! despite the fact that active harm is being done to PoC, i've got to care about a white person's feelings over the safety of PoC", especially given that this seems to be something of a longstanding pattern.

yeah this is blatant subtooting but having never really known about this section of the fediverse in general before now, well,

, et cetera.

i should put away the popcorn, but just. LOL.

"i didn't know about this problem" has now become "i had my eye on this user for awhile, i had serious talks with them, but i never took any action because it just feels unfair to kick them due to their mental illness so as you see i am a saint and the best and a very sad victim here"

at some point an admin - especially an admin! - has to say "your right to swing your fists ends at the start of another person's face".

@frameacloud i love this idea but i have a perhaps counterpoint:

the term "silver vixen" is suffused with unimaginable sapphic energy to the point that my cishet ass can only look at it in awe from the other side of the room

@trwnh HONESTLY lol, it's a stunning moderation fail. the "you didn't even send in a report, oh wait hold on i just found where i missed the report" is the cherry on top of this ridiculous sundae