re: TF2
@socks I wish Valve had just, at that point, decided to just retire active development on the TF2 game at that point (basically what they already HAVE done, and just left it to the community to do all the creative stuff with), and worked instead on a web series of TF2 things, like Expiration Date, just fleshing out the lore, ridiculous hijinks, all with SFM.
re: TF2
@socks (at least then they would have encountered all the problems other people using SFM would have and thus would have had to actually update it lol)