installing mainstream Linux distros isn't arcane knowledge, if you can take a covid rapid test you can install Linux. Nerdy misogynists on the internet just want you too think its harder than it is, too inflate their own egos.
There is a windows program style installer and step by step instructions on the distros website. the most complex part is putting the install file on a thumbdrive which is fixed by ventoy
@raccoon I can't tell if you're being serious 😑 but the large majority of tech nerds in the anglosphere are straight yt men the reason being that all these men think of women as less than and these straight yt men have had a long history of gatekeeping information and telling anyone not like them its too hard for them to understand. People at large have been made to feel to stupid to computer as a direct result of these men's distain for women. fedi doesn't reflect this but that's something else
@budsofstone@computerfairi.es
Yes, I was serious, because I was under the impression that the majority are queers, with trans women being a decent Alice of it. 
And sorry I took a while to reply, I wasn't ignoring you, I just fell asleep.
@raccoon OK because it seems like you are genuinely confused. I will be nice one more time, but I'm letting you know I'm not here to debate or teach. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism_in_the_technology_industry
here is a good start, people outside of tech spaces generally don't see a different between the Linux community and tech industry. there are queers everywhere But also the Linux community is most definitely not a historical queer space. go read mailing lists if you want a taste.
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@raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest @budsofstone@computerfairi.es In my experience, it mostly comes from either mysogynistic gamers whining that their freemium fucktrash doesn't play nice on Linux or people like Lunduke who are too extreme about not wanting to be seen as normie/tech-illiterate.
In reality, Linux will overall work well with anyone willing to learn more about digital freedom in general, and anyone will fit in with its many inclusive and diverse dev communities.
@radmin@limepeeps.perchinup.top @budsofstone@computerfairi.es
This is my impression too.
And the whole thing that this scene is historically queer.
@budsofstone
That and telling people to install Arch, and the TPM shenanigans, and the fact that none of the guides mention you need two computers to install it.
@malin it is annoying that people tell others to install something like arch when all these people want is a working computer. TPM is fucking annoying but disablement steps are included in most distro documentation at this point. and I'm not quite sure what you mean by needing to have 2 computers?
@budsofstone if you don't have a second computer, you can't search problems or rewrite the USB. Any problem or misunderstanding during installation becomes fatal.
I didn't know what 'documentation' meant the first time, I just shoved a USB in and poked the BIOS till it looked like the YouTube video.
@malin I suppose a smart phone does count as a second computer. idk why you would need to change the install material once you are at the point you have erased the old os. plus if you use ventoy there is no rewriting the USB you just copy the iso file on there and it works. the instructions are available for download and can be read in the install media. and GUI installers will generally tell you if you need to turn out secure boot. idk it seems like these are problems that were common years ago
@malin if you did end up needing a second computer and didn't have one. the library has computers anyone can use.
@budsofstone quite possibly. if you're interested here are the things that make me too intimidated to install Linux
* I know nothing about the different distros and don't care enough to find out
* I imagine I will be chmod-ing files and doing permissions a lot on a command line
but, like finding out raspberry Pi has a GUI all this time (I was running PiHole headlessly) it does open up a lot of opportunities to have an independent OS. It just has a neckbeard reputation which is unfair.
@bleepbloop you know that's completely fair, you don't have to be invested in the hobby of computers. Fedora with Gnome if you're mac or KDE if you're windows or Linux mint Debian edition will work right out of the box. and with any of those you can do all permissions modifications (there will be little to none based on what you do with your PC) through the GUI. honestly with any mainstream distro now you don't ever have to open the terminal if you don't want to.
@bleepbloop @budsofstone Oh, I have never needed to use chmod, You can mostly just right click the file and go into the properties in the file viewer, then check a box.
@budsofstone@computerfairi.es
I agree but what does misogyny have to do with any of this?