@guerrillarain I ate honey when I was vegan, and know other people who eat it, but many don't. And for the vegan certifications I know, the product can't contain honey. But yeah, there's no definite answer. Depends on everyone's definition of vegan, too. ("no animal labour" vs "nothing that was taken from an animal" vs "nothing that harms an animal" and lots more.) Also how you view insects, which gets really complicated fast ^^;