@mavica_again most open source software does kind of feel like a cruel prank
@zens it's a bit where everybody else but you is in on the joke that "no it's really good actually you're just using it wrong"
@mavica_again @zens i would.never say your using it wrong to anyone. If you have issues with an OS for specific hardware if your seeking performance overall.
@SweetBlackHearts @mavica_again you literally just did
I said it can be annoying to setup if your not used to it.
I never said your using it wrong out right. Also I said doesn't matter what OS you use, use what works for you.
@SweetBlackHearts @zens i've been using linux for over a decade now, i've seen plenty of distros and preachers come and go. i think i'm very used to linux and how bad it is
@mavica_again @zens well you keep saying it's bad but never say why it's bad to you. I can also say Windows is badand that's it.
I also do not take stock in people saying they used X for a number of years since it can always be your doing it right for that long or wrong for that long.
@SweetBlackHearts @mavica_again you literally just said you would never do this literal thing you just did, word for word.
I don’t want to be mean but i am begging you to get some self awareness about what you are saying
@SweetBlackHearts @mavica_again
i know what it is like to be so invested in an idea from years of pain trying to make it work, that you feel an instinctive need to defend it every time you see someone criticising the idea.
but you can break out of this mindset by simply accepting that all operating systems are terrible. we’re all just coping with this awful unreliable extractive badly designed crap we’ve been handed and doing our best
@SweetBlackHearts @mavica_again you do not need to preach to strangers that linux can be good.
you can accept that it hurts you too. you admitted as much, a little. you don’t need to push that pain onto other people
@zens @mavica_again I'm not preaching it I'm just trying to get a realistic expectation of why everyone thinks it's bad because just saying it's bad as an operating system as a whole is not a good argument. If I was preaching it I would say you're completely wrong I'm just saying give me a better argument
@SweetBlackHearts @zens
- i spend SO LONG trying to WORK *AROUND* the idiosyncracies of UI, which change from distro to distro to version to version
- do-dist-upgrade never worked for me
- things break every time i do a package upgrade
- things i want to do need packages that are not in my manager because i can't do a distro upgrade, so i need to nuke the whole computer and start over
- nobody who designs software for it can agree to design it for non-programmers
@mavica_again @SweetBlackHearts the gnome team broke accessibility and refuse to fix it
@zens @mavica_again Well gnome is like a small subset of the desktop experiences. I don't use gnome because we a.know it blows. Cinnamon or kde are much better in that regard for desktops.
@SweetBlackHearts @zens so would you say i'm using it wrong if the distro i got came with gnome and swapping desktop environments is not as easy as telling me to do so
@SweetBlackHearts @mavica_again not good enough. blind people who have. been hardcore linux users for years are quitting in droves, not just because of the software being broken but because of shitty dismissive attitudes like yours
@SweetBlackHearts @zens
- most people who design software for it cannot agree to be decent people (HELLO, GNU IMAGE MANIPULATOR PROGRAM)
i can keep going but i'll spare luci of more spam (sorry in advance)