@AndyC i know you're trying to make a joke but for me this is really not funny, it is a huge problem that makes my everyday life a lot harder

@slooploon OK....please excuse my insensitivity, I always work a bit off centre. i appreciate for many people life can be a shit sandwich and the last thing you need is crappy dressing.

@AndyC yeah it's okay, i just need people to know this is a serious thing for me, not just an inconvenience

@slooploon I hear ya. have you found a way round it

@AndyC melatonin supplements used to work, but no more.

@slooploon ooosh anything non chemical? I usually use TED talks on loop

@AndyC haha no anything distracting will just keep me awake indefinitely. also, i have severe chronic pain so "chemical" things are what i live on

@slooploon I have a friend down in florida who takes prescribed 60mg of morphine....that's gotta help

@AndyC sounds good, unfortunately i have a generalized opioid intolerance, which means the "best" painkiller i can take is ibuprofen, which.. doesnt' actually do much 🙃 🙃 🙃

@slooploon theres always the mallet to the head....I saw it on this cartoon once and feel like I must emulate it

@AndyC if that would work, i know a great many people who would happily hit themselves on the head every night

@slooploon it has to be self administered....I hear the law makers get kind of shouty if you do it to someone else

@AndyC hahaha yeah

@AndyC if you do it to yourself you'll only be forcefully hospitalized 🙃 🙃

@slooploon better access to meds. ...it's a win win

@AndyC that's really not true

@slooploon I know....how you feeling?

@AndyC accomplished. very good adulting today. and you?