@noelle On the other hand, I think repeating the phrase so much to the point that it's commonplace, well-understood and as deserving of a shortening as i18n and l10n is worthwhile -- especially since the ones who have to be educated about what a11y means are the ones writing the code, not necessarily the same people who need accessibility.
I think a11y is a clever way to make software devs talk about something they haven't been talking about very much, by giving it a cool shortening.
@troubleMoney
It's not about laziness, same reason we don't write out mathematical formulas in natural language because we're too lazy to do so (we *used* to write everything out, and it was way way harder to understand), but because there's actual value in not doing so.
@JordiGH mathematical notation has value in increasing readability
writing a11y instead of accessibility doesn't, it makes it harder to read, stop doing it if you expect anyone to bother reading your shit
THUS SPAKE THE OCTOPUS
@troubleMoney I think we're just arguing from subjective experience here and I feel that you are assuming bad faith on my part while I am feeling lots of hostility on your part.
Shall we just part ways at this point with whatever amicability we can salvage?
@troubleMoney @JordiGH @noelle I had to search them to find out what they mean...
I guess it might be a 'keep your audience in mind'-thing? OK among developers, but not so great on social media?
@Anke Yes, there's definitely an audience component to this. I think with some repetition, "a11y" might eventually appear natural to the people who have to care about it the most: the people writing software.
We've gotten used to far weirder terminology after all:
@troubleMoney @noelle I don't think you're arguing in good faith. I'm not saying you should write everything in a numeronym; only that there is some value in writing as numeronyms important and often repeated concepts that should be everywhere. I'm saying introducing a numeronym can help popularise the subject and puts it in good company with i18n and l10n.