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'no one debates properly'
We do, but these are not situations we can afford to debate god fucking dammit
@daggers_drawn giving any ground to these fuckers is inevitably giving them ten miles
@ADA_SIX Especially given that they never respect the terms of debate they insist on. Tons of their pundits admit it's their goal to embarrass opponents rather than have a more convincing argument.
@ADA_SIX Seriously, what's to debate? The relative pros and cons of baby cages? Debate implies any middle ground is acceptable.