From @radikalgrafitio in https://sunbeam.city/@radikalgrafitio/102363066971788873
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we shouldn't think of solving our environmental problems by reducing our tech level or returning to an earlier level of technology, and we absolutely can't think to localise everything, or worse build everything for the level of individual independent houses, with one family each

a lot of our older tech was very environmental damaging, even just herding goats can fuck up the environment if its not organised with protecting it in mind

currently tech mainly built and used for the purpose of generating profit, this has been the case for hundreds of years, there isn't a past form that didn't harm the envroment, even simple hunter-gatherer societies sent species extinct

the only solution is to repurpose what we already have for the benefit of all humanity, its not about how much tech we have its how its used

@packbat @radikalgrafitio eh, I'm in favor of a large degree of localization myself (well, of downscaling), because hypercapitalist industry has built for _huge_ volume and centralized production. why produce your own steel for your own region when you can just buy from the same gigantic overseas conglomerate that everyone else does? they're the only ones that can afford to produce needed materials in volume, at the absolute minimum price

@Alyx @packbat localism is no less capitalist

you can t produce your own steal

how could you buy something when there is communism?

@radikalgrafitio @packbat I think you're grabbing on to a few words and making unwarranted assumptions about what I mean with them but I really haven't the spoons for this