@moliver @Talia_christine OMG what is it in the PNW that makes everybody crave IPA? Iβve yet to find a pub in Victoria that serves Rickardβs Red or Guinness on tap, but every one of them has eleventyone varieties of IPA (mainly local) with descriptions of how hoppy they are. Likewise the liquor stores have a zillion IPAs & maybe two brown ales if youβre lucky (& that will be a honey brown). Hopps per se are bitter, they should be used sparingly. Do not approve.