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I 1st suspected a few yrs ago. I was filling out paperwork for a student’s dr. so they cld be identified/get services, & I was like, “wait a minute, I do all of those things!” I started talking w/the sped teacher I worked w/abt it & went over what autism looks like in females, & again I was checking all the boxes. It explained so much about my childhood. I’m 54.

@johnettesnuggs @pathfinder @Adventurer @hellomiakoda @hosford42 @ScottSoCal @actuallyautistic @neurodiversity @Tooden @markusl @sentient_water It doesn't necessarily "look different in females," but allistic adults in patriarchy are primed to read *the exact same* behaviors very differently based on whether they see the person in question as a "boy" or a "girl"
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226552742_Baby_X

@sal @actuallyautistic @neurodiversity @Tooden @ScottSoCal @pathfinder @markusl @johnettesnuggs @sentient_water @hellomiakoda @Adventurer I always wondered what was different in how it presented. A lot of the stuff they said was female-specific made sense for me too.

@hosford42
As a male, I relate a lot to the "fenale description" of autism. This made me think at why it's like this. It's real or not. And if it's not real, why?

I took my time and didn't rush it. I love to let the ideas doing what they want in my head. And, while I'm doing something, the responses come from nowhere.

Maybe I should go back to the subject. The definitions of the traits are the same. It's perceived differently. We have a huge bias. We live in a patriarchal society. Studies are often conducted regarding men. People still think there is less female autists. It's not the case. We have to put different lenses to see them. We have to remove these patriarchal lenses and remove the patriarchal point of view. We need to deconstruct it.

Once, we change how we see it. It become clearer. We express them in the same way. We are communicating the same way male and female. We empathize the same way too. Etc.

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"We have a huge bias. We live in a patriarchal society."

Maybe part of it is, traditionally, women are trained from birth to mask, whether they're NT or ND. They're not allowed to get angry, or cranky, or speak up too much, or be too loud, or take credit, or...

It could be unique to where I was raised (Utah) but I don't think so.

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@ScottSoCal

Absolutely, this is part of the patriarchy. It has deep old roots. It's common outside Utah. It's a thing in a lot of countries and cultures.

It's not a "natural" conception. It's human made. It's often described to beginning with the first humans on earth and the fact of hunting and gathering. Women would have educate the children while men, stronger, would hunt and gather. Looks nice? It's wrong. We knows women participate in hunting and gathering and men would look after the children.

Same story but replace "hunt and gather" by agriculture. It's still not the case. Women would participate in agriculture.

It most likely began with the first "cities". They would need to fight against other cities to keep territories. Fighters (men or women, it didn't matter) would die and they needed to replace them as well as keeping the number of inhabitants at a certain level. At the moment, the women will progressively be seen as "giving birth" and left at home.

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@ScottSoCal @Autistrain @hosford42 @actuallyautistic @neurodiversity @Tooden @pathfinder @markusl @johnettesnuggs @sentient_water @hellomiakoda @Adventurer There are lots of people women are socially accepted to get angry at. Their children, people subordinate to them at work - whether coworkers or the "subjects" of their work if they are teachers, medical workers, correctional officers, bureaucrats or something - and men who are poorer or racialized or disabled in ways they're not. Now there's backlash if they get angry at men of equal-or-higher social class than them, but it's not unique to women to be encouraged to be upwardly appeasing and downwardly violent.
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