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I get why a Christian would find Unitarianism appealing. I don't get why people from other backgrounds would want to attend a literal Church on literal Sundays, with none of the music or pageantry or cannibalism of a traditional mass.

On the one hand, the local UU was founded in the 1800s by abolitionists. On the other hand, the people who attend there in 2019 are liberal white homophobes.

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@avi I attended a UU church for a while. Among the attendees were atheists, agnostics, many kinds of pagans, a few Jewish families, and Christians, but most non-religious ex-Christians who had been fucked over by the church in some way. They all came together because they genuinely loved the community and the feeling of love they got from the service, which was usually about being a good humanist. I actually started loving church when it was about the community and not the pageantry

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@avi also, my “literal church” was just like... a nice building with some classrooms and a big room with a stage. There was a nice community garden in the back. There was no big cross on top of it, no stained glass, no pews

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@pexl My family attends a UU church, even though they're Jewish. I can't stand going because the local community is homophobic in this creepy smiling way. They're currently debating, in 2019, if they should display a rainbow flag or if it would ruin wedding photos. And going to sit in a church is also super uncomfortable for me, since I was raised by Catholics who did not like my Jewish background.

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@avi gotcha. This sounds really different from all the other UU churches I’ve checked out. Arguing that there shouldn’t be a rainbow flag in the main room somewhere would have gotten you really socially shunned.. sorry it’s so shitty there for you

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@pexl It's kind of infuriating, because they're a community pillar for a lot of local activism. The straight activists I know here, in general, have an issue with not taking gay rights seriously. The local UU is just a symptom of it, not a driver, but it certainly does not help -- especially if you are trying to organize an action and they're one of the few places you could get a room to run a fundraiser or plan an action

@avi w- ... No??? That was one of the biggest appeals was that there were a TON of gay and trans people in attendance? And many black families? What are you talking about ?

@pexl My local church, which was founded by abolitionists, etc etc

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