Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@Jo
It is only valid if it specifically talks about how some build their social capitals by making call outs tho.
Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@danishcookies @Jo honestly "doing it to build social capital" is trivially true as a potential motivation. It isn't damning at all. Humans are obligate social apes. Building social capital is an instinctive survival strategy, something we all do all the time. Just like "attention-seeking," casting aspersions on this basis is a red flag for me.
Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@SallyStrange @Jo uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fighting the accumulation of social is intrinsic to anarchist practices. Cults of personality and states form that way. "Building social capitals is an instinctive survival strategy, something we all do all the time" is nonsense. There's a vast difference between building a strong, tightly knitted community and becoming an influencer with thousands of followers and audiences.
Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@SallyStrange @Jo Building mutual relations help encouraging social connections within a community. Building social capital will tend to break that connections.
Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@SallyStrange @Jo This is because the social capitalists will offer themselves as the solution for the mutual distrust within communities and encourage others to be influenced by them instead of self organizing within their communities. Social capitals thrive best in selfish and hateful communities.
Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@SallyStrange @Jo Have you literally not seen this in any leftist communities? Leftbook is one prime example. Literal social capitalists build their reputation with the assistance of hierarchical group structures. Their politics reeks of reactionaries and most of them are Tankies. They want a system where they can cash in that social capital for political power. Fuck that.
Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@SallyStrange @Jo It all boils down to the power dynamics. Unequal distribution social capitals will lead to people abusing their platform. In the marketplace of ideas they are capitalists. Their voice will drown out others and no social capitalists have ever gotten to where they are without social engineering. They have power over others and it is as natural as capitalism itself.
Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@SallyStrange @Jo And they will seek out to expand their social capitals as power is addicting and is encouraged within capitalist frameworks. This is why we're anarchist. This is why we're against electoral politics. This is why we are against cults of personality. This is why we are against the State.
Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@SallyStrange @Jo Capitals, be it monetary or social, comes with responsibilities. And I hardly think anyone can be so politically and morally perfect to possess too much of either.
"Social capital" vs influence, popularity, etc
@danishcookies yup. And, people who disparage others on the sole basis that they want to build their influence are not people I'd trust right off the bat.
Responding to an uninvited lecture about "social capital"
@danishcookies
Have I literally not seen any leftist communities. No, I have seen leftist communities. Not leftbook, but I've seen the dynamic you're talking about. Again, still not an argument against being wary of those who disparage others on the sole basis that they seek attention or influence.
Responding to an uninvited lecture about "social capital"
@SallyStrange I already said all I could and link as many of my points to reactionary politics as possible. I don't really care if you're not convinced at this point because the painfully obvious threat of cults of personality apparently just flew over your head. I have better things to do than playing a tug of war with someone who thinks "but I still think seeking out to be an influencer isn't a problem" is somehow an argument.
Hot take about "Cancel culture" (specifically, the term itself)
@SallyStrange @Jo Let's not forget one media platform based solely on accumulating social capitals and creating appealing aesthetics without mutual interactions: Youtube. It's a breeding ground for reactionary politics. Environments encouraging accumulation of social capitals while undermining decentralized self organization always lead to the same outcome.