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@Mikie1600 @pokemon @fediplayspokemon i think we forgot to talk to the professor again, we should go back in and do that again just to be sure

@Mikie1600 @Cahatstrophe @pokemon @fediplayspokemon Actually, if we go right from the starting town, is it possible to encounter any mid-level water Pokémon early? I don't know what the speedrun community thinks about that.

@Mikie1600 @hitstun @pokemon @fediplayspokemon i'm pretty sure we need surf or a fishing rod for that. it's just water over there

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@Cahatstrophe @Mikie1600 @pokemon @fediplayspokemon Oh yeah, we don't even get a fishing rod until after we beat the first gym. We can pick up the Old Rod in the Pokémon Center outside Union Cave. If we immediately use the Old Rod when we get it, and we might encounter a Poliwag.

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