what sort of brain fog made snap and flatpak look like more appealing propositions to linux users than appimages?
@frost maybe it's just not compatible with ubuntu. the flatpak installer thing kept spinning and never would load for me. but graphical interfaces are so 1992, i should've tried the commandline instead, i know
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@mavica_again ow! Something's borked for sure.
GUI flatpak install worked on Kubuntu last we tried, never tried mainline Ubuntu.
But I think we heard something about Canonical /actively sabotaging/ flatpaks... that was shortly before we moved to Debian so we didn't run into it ourselves.
@frost i solved my problems installing windows 10 where A/V broadcasting stuff just worked instead of having to pore over config files
@mavica_again At least for Snaps, money.
Snap is closed-source and centrally operated by Canonical. My guess as to *why* they're pushing it so hard is that if enough people start relying on it, they can start charging rent.
That's what happened with Anaconda - they built up a free centralized repository around their stuff until they had a large-enough userbase relying on it for package infra. In 2020 the rug-pull happened: they changed their TOS to make enterprise users (and fortunately not hobbyists) pay rent. And companies that had spent the last 5 years being misled that it was intended to be a free service had to just suck it up and pay.
@Arcanoraptor huh i did not know snap was closed-source. TIL
@mavica_again IIRC it's shenanigans to get around the GPL's source disclosure requirements. The client is open-source, but the backend that does all the interesting bits is closed-source.
@mavica_again I mean, personally, it's nice having things actually show up in the launcher and whatnot, and easy updates.
(Snap can get launched into the sun, though. But flatpak is decent IMO.)