re: recent discourse, a note for both sides
this started with someone intentionally, and self-destructively, presenting it in a way where they wanted to hurt other people, so they could hurt themselves.
if you want to genuinely express concern: don't follow in those footsteps.
if you want to genuinely attempt to understand: don't follow in those footsteps.
if you want to do anything other than hurt other folks, and also yourself: don't follow in those footsteps.