Contrary, pol 

There are so many people here on Fedi that are, like, a hairs' breath from enlightenment.

But then y'all fall short of the finish line and collapse into the cheap & easy blame game.

It's a conspiracy! People are out to get me! Eat the rich! Men suck! Prejudice! Oppression!

It's the systems, kids. Sure some benefit, some don't. But the system is emergent. Identify how it's are wrong and attack that... or get nothing done hating the people who are accidentally on top.

'Sup to you.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE you know this has been sticking in my mind like a fishbone in my craw for a bit.

i think where you're going wrong - ironically right after claiming enlightenment -is the idea that people on top of these systems "accidentally".

these systems did not just emerge, fully-formed, as minerva from the forehead of zeus. they are not natural processes, no matter how many lobsters jordan peterson cites.

these are systems *set in place* by *people* and *kept in place* by *people*.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE so yes, people have a right to get angry at the people who are keeping in place those systems that oppress them.

even - and perhaps especially - when people who benefit from those systems, like, let's say, a man who is also a feminist, claim their enlightenment above the repressed masses around them, despite being part of the group the system is benefitting. especially when this hypothetical male feminist then mocks frustration and anger of the oppressed.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE if you truly want people to break free, to have true equality and freedom, it means understanding that there are systems grinding them under the heel, and it means understanding they're going to be frustrated at the culprits wearing the boots.

wearing the boots includes not only active participation, but passive participation... like mocking minorities for being unenlightened when they express anger and frustration at the people hurting them.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE if you aren't going to give a damn for people unless they are "enlightened" just like you, AND a crucial step to your enlightenment is coming from a place of privilege - so you are insulated from such sources of anger - siddhartha you ain't, my dude.

saying "well it's the systems, some benefit, some don't" ignores how those systems came to be.

honestly, it reeks of a get-out-of-jail-free-card for examining one's own behavior.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE if you are Enlightened, it means you never have to question yourself. here, you've set yourself up perfectly to ignore how you contribute to, maintain, and promote those harmful systems. "ah, well, they just happen, and people who benefit are totally innocent you see..." not only ignores the reality of how those systems happen, but dismisses the genuine anger, hurt, and harm being done to minorities by those systems.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE it is, essentially, "if you point out your oppressor, you are not Enlightened (tm) and not worthy of my time! you should work at being more Enlightened (tm) like me! the systems that harm you are totally unconnected to the people in those systems, building those systems, so don't be mad at the people harming you! it's, like, the system, brah. the person who punched you? they were just, like, innocent. totes innocent my dude."

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE and honestly, if you're willing to call yourself a male feminist and also spout this NOT ALL MEN crap - that conveniently gives you an excuse to never look at yourself as an individual perpetuating these systems, which come from no person whatsoever but are the Real Problem Not People Totes Trust Me I'm Enlightened - i think we all know what your feminism is gonna eventually end up being.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE making broad declarations that Oppressed People Don't Understand Their Circumstances And Only I, On My Mountain Of Privilege, Can Truly Understand What They Should Feel Because I Am So Enlightened is not, in short, good praxis.

if you're against these systems, you have to understand and sympathize with people being mad at them. NOT dismiss them as 'the unenlightened' while snobbily tossing your nose in the air.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE that sort of enlightenment ain't revolutionary. it's the same old-same old of Dude Tells You Silly Minorities What To Think Because He Alone Has The Clearly Superior Brain.

that schtick got old about... ohhh... *checks watch* i'm gonna say, generously, 20,000 BCE? sounds like a good estimate.

for more information, please see this video. youtube.com/watch?v=gWju37TZfo declaring yourself as Mighty Fine 'cos you're enlightened is only gonna get you somewhere half the time...

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE and honestly, dismissing people saying "eat the rich" as "not enlightened" is real easy when you're in a position where your daily life is not threatened by the rich deciding profits are more important than you being able to live.

for more information on THAT, this type 2 diabetic cordially invites you to look up the cost of insulin in the united states, over time, and the profit margin on it.

so, in conclusion.

๐ŸŽต i know you like to think your shit don't stink... ๐ŸŽต

Contrary, pol 

@wigglytuffitout Actually, sorry about the mocking. I'm sure you have legit reasons to be upset.

But is jumping into some random stanger's mentions, calling them names and yelling at them really making anything better? Did it even make you feel any better?

If my musings get you so riled up, maybe consider using the block or mute button? You don't have to listen to me. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

Take care.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE eh, i was going for "this person is putting forth these ideas and could benefit or take heed from a 'check yourself before you wreck yourself' as part of the discourse on mastodon", because i have this weird naiive idea about how sometimes people can actually change their course when told "that ain't it, chief".

if you don't want people to respond to your posts - i would suggest perhaps at least limiting to local timeline only, if not followers-only.

Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE however i guess this confirms me to be right lol - why would the Enlightened Dude of Dudeliness dare deign to examine his own shit when he could throw his nose in the air and continue being superior to these idiot hoi polloi who are actually, gasp, *angry* about shit (how boorish!)?

idk man, it's up to you if you wanna actually own your shit and improve and be a decent person, or just wrap yourself up in more layers of smugness on account of always being right.

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Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE but if you ain't willing to own your shit and work on it -

hey.

don't call yourself a feminist, yeah?

I Listen And Accept Input Only When Convenient And Know Better Than Silly Women is not feminist. it is, in fact, anti-feminist, as it's just the same ol' same ol' shit.

you can do that if you want. but know what you're doing.

anyway, to answer your question: yep i do feel better, thanks. it means i get to write you off now lmao. ciao.

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Contrary, pol 

@wigglytuffitout Go right ahead, angry Internet stranger.

I'm not going to fight you, nor am I going to defend myself against all the labels and assumptions you've made about me. Believe what you want.

I am going to mute you though, because it will make room for friendlier interactions in my notifications. Bye!

re: Contrary, pol 

@HerraBRE Holy nuts, what a rant.

re: Contrary, pol 

@siina ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

I'm sure I deserved it. OP was not exactly my least inflammatory toot.

People cherish their rage.

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