@miro@todon.nl just seeing this drift past my dash...

the problem's pretty easily identified here, though you may not like its solution: you need to stop looking at it as a thing that is your ultimate pursuit of truth and your passion to become a philosopher.

it's lead you to look at it all in a detached way. the problem was just that you didn't know a bad source was bad when you looked it up. (why did you think that source was trustworthy? why did you look at only that source? where's the observing?)>

@miro@todon.nl so, because you wanted to make a slapdash funny joke, you didn't stop to do some basic analysis of "what are these terms? what do they mean? what do multiple sources *say* they mean?"

and your apology is... honestly half ego-stroking about how you're above details because you're a great philosopher, so you don't think remembering minutiae is something you should really bother with.

my dude, it's not minutiae here. it's people being attacked and killed for who they are.

@miro@todon.nl now is a good time to remind yourself that this is not distant philosophy from those who can rise above.

for *you*, personally, it might be. but for many people, it is not a little detail. it is a big one that threatens them daily. it is the foe that comes for their blood.

stop and listen to them. make a practice of this. you're 18, that's pretty young i suppose, but this is something where it would behoove you to drink deep from the cup of maturity and realize it ain't about *you*.

@miro@todon.nl to continue just being blunt as all hell: do you know the saying "if you lay down with dogs, you get fleas"?

i am seeing that you are crawling with fleas. the idea that reason and science are superior to all else (like emotion), the idea that a clear view can only be gotten when you are from a detached and philosophical view, hell, even the idea that Urban Dictionary is a reliable source for defining social justice terms (bless your heart) -

what dogs have you been cuddling with?

@miro@todon.nl i'm going to guess it's a bunch of privileged people - probably cishet white dudes - who see themselves as the staunch enemies of alt-right assclowns, but aren't aware yet that they're using the same tactics.

and on this subject?

fuck logic.

fuck scientific study.

wanting to rigidly stick to those two things here is going to mean you will never truly grasp any social justice, because you are viewing them as a sensible rational problem that can fit into a formula and all work out.

@miro@todon.nl you've been really training yourself to only value this distant, philosophical viewpoint. why? who is telling you that?

who is saying that being unemotional and distant from the problems is the best way to understand them?

it is probably not the people who are crying out to you for help, desperately looking for a hand to pull them up. after all, they CAN'T step away. they CAN'T treat it as a philosophical exercise.

it's not a fun after-dinner chat with brandy and cigars for them.

@miro@todon.nl examine where you got these ideas. pick them apart. or if that's too much work, at *least*, if you are dedicated so much to the scientific method, know what your terms are before you merrily slap them around. "i added a good splash of stuff from a brown bottle, the label was half gone but it said something hydroxic" wouldn't fly in a lab report, so if you're doing social science, do social science.

and that's YOUR job to do these things. NOT for people to clean up after you later.