hot take that is literally a common understanding of theory and semantics:
racism against white people exists but because most of western civilisation is disproportionately ruled by and populated by them it is not impactful enough to avert
literally saying an entire race of people is inferior, corrupt or bad *is racist*, but when the practises or privilege of that race happen to be corrupt or bad demonstrably and universally
it's acceptable
difference between "isn't real" and "isn't impactful"
hot take that is literally a common understanding of theory and semantics:
u r quite literally able and should admit that something exists but its negative effect is next-to-none and personal at worst
white people in western civilisation cannot suffer from institutional effects of racism, they *can* suffer from personal racism, but because they make up such a population majority that effect is anecdotal at best and communal at worst
hot take that is literally a common understanding of theory and semantics:
erasure of personal experiences is authoritarian. this is immutable fact.
you're succeeding at being super woke until your views of erasure become institution
easiest way to avoid that is to simply not hold a petty, bitter and outright hostile view of sociopolitical dynamics
alternatively, you can continue to hold an irreverence for individuals and simultaneous understanding of their specific plights as human beings
when you attempt to erase the rights of individual people to feel poorly, to suffer because of or to feel ashamed of their identities, *specifically because you don't like those identities*
can u guess what that is called
can u
bc i would love 2 kno
theres a word but i cant think of what it is....
hmmm......................
@PanicBomb
Uhhhhhhhhhh, "personal experience of racism against whites" is still a bad take. Hating and generalizing oppressors is in no way similar in nature of racism against an oppressed body of people. Punching up is fundamentally different from punching down.
@danishcookies yes, punching up against institutionalised privilege and oppression
not punching up against individuals
punching at identity is punching at identity, punching at the unequal statures of identities is not
making fun of white cultures, stereotypes and privilege should be welcomed but going at people on the basis of a factor they have no say in is at its absolute best just a less-harmful type of racism
@PanicBomb
LMAO "white cultures"? "White cultures"? What the fuck is white culture? Nazis and Colonialist? The "white" identity is literally built to exclude others and to construct white supremacy.
@danishcookies gaelic and celtic cultures have existed in northern europe for thousands of years, a basic fundamental understanding of history can demonstrate that and an even more basic understanding can demonstrate that they rise to power through the dismantling and fall of the roman empire
"the barbarians of today become the tax collectors of tomorrow" applies here
culture, privilege and behaviour are not immutable, racial identity is something no individual has a say in
@danishcookies mocking, ridiculing and disavowing the identity behaviour of embracing their identity in a toxic way is and should be encouraged
mocking, ridiculing and disavowing someone simply for having an identity is inherently harmful behaviour
@PanicBomb
LMAO those aren't more "white" then how the Nazis describe them to be. The concept of whiteness literally doesn't even exist back then. Those who proudly claim it as "white" are just reactionaries.
@danishcookies you seem to think anyone you disagree with is a reactionary and we're clearly using modernised semantics, definitions and characteristics of identity
if you want to argue as a reductionist i'm sure that'll be very fun but it doesn't exactly apply to this conversation
no one is saying colonialist or nazi politics or identities should be treated with any amount of respect, so please do yourself and everyone else a favour and stop arguing a point with an imagined opposition
@PanicBomb
Proud of your Gaelic heritage, proud of your Celtic heritage, proud of your Italian heritage, proud of your Greek heritage. But none of them are intrinsically "white". People of color have lived on and migrated to Europe for god knows how long. Assuming they are all white makes you a nitwit at best and a reactionary at worst.
@danishcookies again, still not falling under modern definitions
when arguing against the grain of axiomatic politics we have to argue with another direction
it's woodwork, widdle the same direction and you end up with nothing or a sharp point, and neither is a useful tool for construction
when approaching the white identity you combat its comfort zone with the definitions it understands and is built on