taizou @lion@computerfairi.es

@DanaTheElf Yeah it's not too likely tbh but I couldn't totally rule it out

Probably your best bet though is to speak to someone with decent SNES technical knowledge, they could probably figure out the issue pretty easily, i'm just generalising from my experience with GB stuff here

@DanaTheElf hm if it was only ever released on that cart it's also possible it specifically makes use of the multicart's bank switching to swap in translated assets or something

@DanaTheElf It does sound like you mightve been lucky enough that the game you want is present in the first bank in which case you might have all the data & the issue could just be that its not in the right place or the emulator is detecting the size wrong or something

But if you're not lucky the data was split across bank boundaries and you don't have all of it

@DanaTheElf Yeah that sounds like a mapper thing, what's probably happening is it has multiple 4MB rom banks and requires some specific write to some address to read any other banks, otherwise it'll just give you the first one. The only way to dump the whole thing would be to use a dumping device that allows you to customise the reads/writes performed and then reverse engineer the menu code to figure out what they are, its not trivial sadly

@DanaTheElf You might have already seen this but if it helps any this person seems to have been successful in extracting games from a Woodi SFC cart https://github.com/sanni/cartreader/discussions/822

@DanaTheElf I don't have experience with SNES specifically but the usual issue with multicarts isn't compression but rather that they use custom memory mappers that standard dumping tools don't support and typically aren't emulated either. if you're trying to extract a specific game the issue is probably either the full data for that game wasn't dumped or it's not in the right place, but couldn't say which without seeing it really

oh wait that's what happened! so i'm still good actually!
nothing quite like the relief of finding out i don't have to do shit

do u like my new title

hm apparently all my websites certificates are going to expire in three days even though they should have been getting auto-renewed🥲 I hate how fucking HTTPS has made my formerly zero-maintenance websites need fucking maintenance now

Anyway sorry I've been dumping my thoughts about this case into this thread over the course of like 24 hours now. It will happen again

It would probably be useful if I'd posted this on Twitter where there's a whole load of hyperbole going round about this case and not much sober analysis but I also can't be fucked to deal with the responses I'd get on there so I'm not going to

I do think there's a fair chance if Yuzu had required decrypted ROMs they would've figured out some other grounds to attack it though. So I couldn't say another Switch / Switch 2 emu would be safe in the US if it had no decryption functionality. But as things stand I do think non-current-platform emulators are generally not at risk

Also the Patreon had nothing to do with it

Their case primarily hinged on their characterisation of Yuzu as a "circumvention device" by virtue of the fact that it decrypts Switch games at runtime as a core part of its functionality. This is not really a common factor for most older system emulators which either play games that were never encrypted in the first place, or require pre-decrypted ROMs (as Citra does). So I don't believe this case would've affected the standing of emulation in general even if it went to trial and they won

Another thing worth noting is that they didn't explicitly target Citra at all, despite the same lead dev, it was only mentioned once in the complaint as background context and not mentioned in the final judgement and injunction at all

Whether this was because they didn't believe they had as strong a case against it, or they just weren't bothered about pursuing an emu for a dead system, I don't know, but it does suggest Citra forks and other older system emus would not be in their crosshairs

Like ultimately this case wasn't about the money and probably not *really* about Yuzu itself either, given the timing the intent was probably to pre-empt any future attempt at Switch 2 emulation by the team and scare off anyone else from trying it

So I think it's important to figure out what's safe for emulation in the legal climate that exists & not just allow a general chilling effect to set in

@Devourer_ITA Actually I stand corrected, it was mentioned in the background of the original complaint but it wasn't the basis for it, more like supporting evidence for the usage and popularity of the emulator

So it didn't help but I still 100% think the case would've been brought regardless if they had it or not

@Devourer_ITA Yeah people bring that up but it wasn't even mentioned in the case as far as I can see. I feel like Nintendo would've gone after the project regardless, it wasn't about the money it was about the existence of the emulator itself. And tbh I think emulator developers *should* be able to be compensated for their work, it is important and valuable