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C is a very difficult and cumbersome language and absolutely should not be taught to beginning programmers.
It's difficulty makes people scared to try other languages, unless they're very similar to C
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@lizardsquid Agreed. Python is probably a good one to start with, in my opinion.
But then, I taught myself how to program on a TI-84 in TI-BASIC so what do I know
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@Felthry I don't enjoy python at all, but I agree that it's an ok language to start with - it's what I started with, sort of
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@lizardsquid It's very different, but it's easy to learn. Maybe lua would be better as a starting language? I've heard good things about Ruby's ease-of-learning too
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@Felthry the thing that makes lisp relatively easy to learn - once you understand a function, everything builds on that. Unlike a procedural language, where you have to learn instructions and loops and functions and ...
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@lizardsquid If you want a functional language, though, why lisp as opposed to say Haskell?
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@Felthry I'd much prefer to teach people haskell! I just say lisp because I've had some really negative reactions (mostly from people who don't use haskell) when I've said "haskell is a good first language"
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@lizardsquid I have zero experience with either! Most of my coding is fairly low-level because I am an electrical engineer, not a computer engineer. I code DSPs and FPGAs and stuff.
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@Felthry neat!
if you're ever interested in learning haskell, I'm always happy to help if you get stuck!
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@lizardsquid Ew, not java as a first language, definitely not.
Lisp is a language I've heard good things about but never done anything with myself.