look I think my therapist really messed up my sense of what I can and can't do even more? Always "yeah you think you can't do that, but I think you can" and never like… actually being allowed to find out and maybe end up saying no, i can't do that… as if humans didn't have real actual limitations or idk

but that doesn't even matter because, i'm super stuck and i've been super stuck for years and I don't know how to get unstuck, so it really doesn't matter what i actually can and can't do, because, i don't know how to even try anything

@maunzikation I think I might have a similar stuck-feeling. Maybe you can talk to you therapist and tell them that this bothers you and isn't what you need?

@antifahnen I don't see them anymore :/ mostly because they always made a big deal about how good and important it is to talk about issues, but never actually changed anything that I said didn't work for me m)

@maunzikation Ah, I see. If you wanna search for one in the ~future it might be helpful to look for a certain type of therapy.

@antifahnen maybe! I don't really know whether I'd like something before I've tried it though x) (except for some types that are definitely out of the question :D)

@maunzikation I'm currently in a "psychoanalytic orientated" therapy so I can answer questions to that I guess .__.

@antifahnen oh, psychoanalysis is one of the types i'm not really considering for me. but, thank you. does the .___. mean that you don't like it that much? or is it re answering questions?

@distelfliege @antifahnen the therapist that I just stopped seeing does psychodrama x) but I didn't know that before the first appointment (only had her email address), and I liked her so I gave it a try. i don't think the method was the only issue, but I could have guessed that it wouldn't be great either.

@maunzikation @distelfliege psychodrama sounds kind of interesting but I have a hard time to see this work without something combined so you can talk about what came up. Maybe you this on-the-way or so.
If you think it's interessting I can talk about why I decided against behavioral therapies but idk if you wanna hear all that stuff and that would be totally ok too.

@distelfliege @antifahnen yes i also think that's really interesting! i'm drawn to the hands-on aspects but i'm worried about some other things so yes, interested :)

@maunzikation @distelfliege
the main reasons I chose psychoanalytic before behavior therapy (that were the two main types I considered) is because I wanna figure out by myself what I need. My therapist doesn't give me tips how I can solve a problem or what could help me. My therapist mainly asks questions. I can totally choose for myself everytime what to talk about. The one "rule" we have is: talk about what comes to your mind >>

@distelfliege @maunzikation
that might sound like an easy rule but it's something that can be hard (f.e. when you think "oh, that's totally not important" or "why should I talk about my supermarket-shopping-list? I don't wanna waste time!" or if it's simply smth you don't wanna talk about <-- the last think can be half-solved which meta-talking about it "something came to my mind but I'm not ready to talk about it")

@maunzikation @distelfliege Also, I talk a lot about what happens now, even if there are lots of past-stuff I could talk about. Sometimes I refer to this past stuff when I think it's connected or when I just think about it but I'm totally free to choose the topics I wanna talk about. If I feel like I should or shouldn't talk about something I also talk about that feeling, that really helps.

@distelfliege @maunzikation
I think that's interesting and totally great that so different types of therapies can help (different people with different issues) 🙂 😁

@distelfliege @maunzikation
The other thing that is important is the relationship between me and my therapist. How do I feel about the stuff my therapist says? How do I feel about the 2 weeks holiday they make? And so on.
It can be hard be hard to find out the most stuff on your own but I think it's so much more lasting and helping. It also frustrates me often! :D

@antifahnen @distelfliege oooh that sounds great. i guess i've just had some bad experience with a psychoanalyst ("a", not "my", thankfully) who was super into freud and kept burdening people with shitty and uncalled for / unconsensual interpretations of things they said in friendly and mentor-ly contexts. good to know that that's not a core part of the actual thing :)

@maunzikation @distelfliege
maybe there's some differences between "psychoanalytic" therapy and "psychoanalytic oriented" therapy. A therapist who is totally into Freud and would express that - would totally bother me 😒

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