look I think my therapist really messed up my sense of what I can and can't do even more? Always "yeah you think you can't do that, but I think you can" and never like… actually being allowed to find out and maybe end up saying no, i can't do that… as if humans didn't have real actual limitations or idk
@antifahnen I don't see them anymore :/ mostly because they always made a big deal about how good and important it is to talk about issues, but never actually changed anything that I said didn't work for me m)
@antifahnen @distelfliege hopefully :) but not right now, I need a break from all that.
@antifahnen maybe! I don't really know whether I'd like something before I've tried it though x) (except for some types that are definitely out of the question :D)
@maunzikation I'm currently in a "psychoanalytic orientated" therapy so I can answer questions to that I guess .__.
@antifahnen oh, psychoanalysis is one of the types i'm not really considering for me. but, thank you. does the .___. mean that you don't like it that much? or is it re answering questions?
@maunzikation The ".__." is more of a "I'm shy and I don't consider myself knowledgeable but I might actually know something about it but idk"
and yeah, I think this kind of therapy really works for me atm (it's my third therapy-try and I'm quite happy I found a nice therapist)
@antifahnen ah, ok. that sounds great! :>
@distelfliege @antifahnen the therapist that I just stopped seeing does psychodrama x) but I didn't know that before the first appointment (only had her email address), and I liked her so I gave it a try. i don't think the method was the only issue, but I could have guessed that it wouldn't be great either.
@distelfliege @antifahnen mhm, I don't think we actually did a lot of what's typical for it. it's apparently focused on relationships and roles and stuff. for me that meant sometimes choosing stones/little plushies/little figures to represent people in my life or aspects of myself and… pretty much just putting them on the table and talking about them. one typical thing seems to be imagining you're some other person
@antifahnen @distelfliege (sitting in a different chair, getting into their posture) and saying what you think they might think about a certain issue. but we only got to that once, and while it did something positive for me at first, i had the impression that what i said then was kind of used against me because the focus seemed to shift to "100% understanding that person" instead of what that meant for me.
@maunzikation @distelfliege psychodrama sounds kind of interesting but I have a hard time to see this work without something combined so you can talk about what came up. Maybe you this on-the-way or so.
If you think it's interessting I can talk about why I decided against behavioral therapies but idk if you wanna hear all that stuff and that would be totally ok too.
@distelfliege @antifahnen yes i also think that's really interesting! i'm drawn to the hands-on aspects but i'm worried about some other things so yes, interested :)
@maunzikation @distelfliege
the main reasons I chose psychoanalytic before behavior therapy (that were the two main types I considered) is because I wanna figure out by myself what I need. My therapist doesn't give me tips how I can solve a problem or what could help me. My therapist mainly asks questions. I can totally choose for myself everytime what to talk about. The one "rule" we have is: talk about what comes to your mind >>
@distelfliege @maunzikation
that might sound like an easy rule but it's something that can be hard (f.e. when you think "oh, that's totally not important" or "why should I talk about my supermarket-shopping-list? I don't wanna waste time!" or if it's simply smth you don't wanna talk about <-- the last think can be half-solved which meta-talking about it "something came to my mind but I'm not ready to talk about it")
@maunzikation @distelfliege Also, I talk a lot about what happens now, even if there are lots of past-stuff I could talk about. Sometimes I refer to this past stuff when I think it's connected or when I just think about it but I'm totally free to choose the topics I wanna talk about. If I feel like I should or shouldn't talk about something I also talk about that feeling, that really helps.
@distelfliege @maunzikation
I think that's interesting and totally great that so different types of therapies can help (different people with different issues) 🙂 😁
@distelfliege @maunzikation
The other thing that is important is the relationship between me and my therapist. How do I feel about the stuff my therapist says? How do I feel about the 2 weeks holiday they make? And so on.
It can be hard be hard to find out the most stuff on your own but I think it's so much more lasting and helping. It also frustrates me often! :D
@antifahnen @distelfliege oooh that sounds great. i guess i've just had some bad experience with a psychoanalyst ("a", not "my", thankfully) who was super into freud and kept burdening people with shitty and uncalled for / unconsensual interpretations of things they said in friendly and mentor-ly contexts. good to know that that's not a core part of the actual thing :)
@maunzikation @distelfliege
maybe there's some differences between "psychoanalytic" therapy and "psychoanalytic oriented" therapy. A therapist who is totally into Freud and would express that - would totally bother me 😒
@maunzikation Ah, I see. If you wanna search for one in the ~future it might be helpful to look for a certain type of therapy.