is there a single chip solution usb->serial i've missed that does true RS232 -12 +12 vdc signaling or are you still expected to always need to couple an ftdi with a max232 to this day
@arielmt my nag was rather that it's required for there to be a separate max232 (or otherwise rs232 transciever) for signal level conversion but i've been educated on why a design with both chips separate is better