maple classic™ 
wow lookie what a surprise, the fucking bug that super annoys me in lightdm has been open since 2016 https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1614474
i swear to fucking god
ok, lightdm replacements?
@noelle i think i blocked enough people that i don't get those anymore, sadly xD
@squirrel I've been using sddm, because kde
but it's probably equally buggy, only differently so
@drwho isn't openbox a wm
@squirrel Oops. You wanted a display manager, not a window manager. My bad.
Ummm... I kind of use LightDM on my media boxen for autostart...
LXDM?
@drwho ah, i'll look it up, thanks
@squirrel I've been getting pretty decent behavior out of gdm3. Not sure if you're a "all gnome" kind of squirrel, or how well (or if) it works un-bundled from the rest of the gnome suite though.
@devlogic honestly i have a very vague grasp of what parts of my system are even gnome. i'm using mate and apparently that's gtk? idk. i just want a login screen that works
can linux just like, work
just work
please?