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I've just learned that what americans refer to as "cider" is in fact, literally apple juice
What the hell USA?
This does explain how surprised americans are when they try a pint of scrumpy though
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@somarasu okay, yeah, but you have to specify that as "hard cider", over here non-alcoholic cider is a contradiction in terms
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@troubleMoney
Oooooh, i see.
I love cider with or without alcohol.
Non-alcoholic cider makes a good all-ages New Years toast drink.
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@troubleMoney Around here (in New England) we sometimes use "cider" to refer to apple juice that's, like, spiced, unpasteurized, and non-homogenized, and then "hard cider" to refer specifically to the beer-like stuff -- which I prefer to beer, personally, and which was essentially used to sterilize the drinking water among farming families back in the 1700s, so even the youth were chugging watered-down cider. That's why apples became such an important crop around here
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@lunasspecto I'm from the west country, cider is generally the drink of choice
The scrumpy can get dangerous though, north of 7% and goes down smooth
And of course in imperial pints, not the US pint
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@troubleMoney Most of the ciders I've had around here we around 5% but I had some kinda fancy cider from Maine recently that that left me reeling and I suspect it was a little more serious
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@troubleMoney Apples were really only grown in sour varieties when folk hero "Johnny Appleseed" appeared, and the crop he popularized wasn't considered for for much except drinking until people bred sweeter varietals
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@lunasspecto good bloke that Johnny Appleseed, making sure all could have cider and get drunk
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@troubleMoney I think some of that history got erased by the Temperance movement & Prohibition, though
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@troubleMoney No! Really? Where did you get this info? Apple juice is... apple juice. Apple cider is fermented to contain alcohol.
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@troubleMoney hey, Angry Orchard is *way* more than just apple juice!
That's actually not very true..
But i like my weak American ciders, especially tasty flavors like pear ciders.