@troubleMoney Around here (in New England) we sometimes use "cider" to refer to apple juice that's, like, spiced, unpasteurized, and non-homogenized, and then "hard cider" to refer specifically to the beer-like stuff -- which I prefer to beer, personally, and which was essentially used to sterilize the drinking water among farming families back in the 1700s, so even the youth were chugging watered-down cider. That's why apples became such an important crop around here
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@troubleMoney Most of the ciders I've had around here we around 5% but I had some kinda fancy cider from Maine recently that that left me reeling and I suspect it was a little more serious