Okay this Huawei thing is really bringing up a few issues around a lot of standards bodies being based in the US

The SD Association is based in California which means that Huawei can't say their products support SD cards

And the Wi-Fi Alliance is based in Texas which means Huawei won't be to certify that their products work with wi-fi

And the Bluetooth SIG is based in Washington, which means they can't use Bluetooth

This is a problem

@troubleMoney if they don't end up with any deal they are pretty f-ed.
Even if they do their own OS, it would be useless without any SoC...
ARM is saying they use US tech so that would be an issue.
And pretty much anything is either ARM licenced or Intel/AMD :/
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@dashie patents for the z80 are up

could have z80-powered phones I guess

@troubleMoney @dashie there's MIPS and RISC-V

it's unlikely, but seeing a phone running on an open ISA would be cool

@grainloom
The risk here is the Chinese govt forcing spyware. What use is it to buy an "open" CPU is they install spyware microcode in it?

Granted, you could replace it with an open chip bought elsewhere, but I betcha they'll add anti tamper code in the kernel and you're screwed anyway.

When I see big powers and tech giants fighting, I feel like a tiny man watching Godzilla and Kong wrestle in my neighborhood.

@troubleMoney @dashie

@rick_777 @grainloom @troubleMoney @dashie
The risk here is the US govt forcing spyware. What use is it to buy an "open" CPU is they install spyware microcode in it?

Granted, you could replace it with an open chip bought elsewhere, but I betcha they'll add anti tamper code in the kernel and you're screwed anyway.

When I see big powers and tech giants fighting, I feel like a tiny man watching Godzilla and Kong wrestle in my neighborhood.

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