@Sir_Boops just as i'm passing by on the fediverse -

honestly this is legit

"i hate rap, it's so uncivilized, it's not really music" etc etc. is a huge dogwhistle, especially when talking about "rap culture", equivalent to "urban youth who don't pull their pants up". as hip-hop and rap were and are still primarily black spheres, it's often obvious enough for even my white ass to clock on.

it's a genre that has been "gentrified" somewhat but it's still very much a thing

@Sir_Boops additionally if you ever see anyone whining about how "hip hop/rap isn't really music", it really pisses em off when i note that the aeneid sounds a whole lot like rap when sung properly in meter, beowulf has the same damn effect, and so on.

if you ever need a litmus test, that, i think, is a good one. if it's not a dogwhistle? "oh i didn't think of that connection, interesting, ty" if it is? "how DARE you BESMIRCH these PARAGONS OF WESTERN CULTURE -" yada yada bullshit ensues.

@Sir_Boops again, i'm white, but it's a dog whistle i hear often enough around here in the south that i know what it means and i know how to rebut it

if you have somebody who thinks all rap music is bullshit trash that shouldn't be counted as real music, but hates when you point out western society really loves other metered poetry, you probably have a racist

there ain't really much difference between https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catullus_16 and "vulgar rap lyrics" after all