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as much as i agree wholeheartedly that we need to move away from cars, and promote public transportation, especially availability to disabled folks

i kind of wonder how this gets rectified with a city mouse vs country mouse practicalities

when out in the country, public transportation is really hard to figure out, especially when you take into account that for many people who live out in the countryside it's more than just transportation

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there's just some sort of... big practicalities there

how do we keep it from creating large no-man's-lands in rural environments, basically?

don't get me wrong, incrimental progress is still progress. right now basically everywhere except for some areas of some large cities in the US mean that if you don't have a car, you aren't able to do *anything*, so it's all no-man's-land.

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basically i worry that especially as it becomes a moral precedent, it will end up a way to look down on and sneer at rural communities - that are often also really poor - but also it will mean that more people who are disabled and have limited mobility or are chronically ill etc. have large parts of the country where they are unable to live, whereas 'go in car' is doable now, but with no car and little rural service with public transport...

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i just feel sometimes that some of the worst habits of leftist discourse and calls for action, while trying to address very real and present problems, have blinders on that mean they look at those problems in the urban setting and are not likely to consider rural settings

and this becomes unintentional classism + racism etc. - "the country folk would never understand, and they voted for Trump anyway, so fuck 'em"

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i suppose i feel that keenly because the same blinders end up with people wholesale discarding the south if brought to its logical end

not only is this, well, not a tactically sound move, but they refuse to acknowledge the racism there (black people being disenfranchised, kept too poor to move) and the inherent classism behind "well - if these people were worth anything - they would have moved o civilization by now"

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@wigglytuffitout that last point ticks me off

Like, at least consider that people might have voted for Trump for reasons other than racism and being rich??

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@InspectorCaracal honestly i feel like that opinion is great for only one thing, when i saw people saying things like "well fuck x state, they can all die in the hurricane, they voted for trump!"

for one thing, it was a lot closer in many places than anyone wants to admit (thanks electoral college)

for another - PoC populations have been intentionally kept around too poor to move and also disenfranchised, kept from voting... and to ignore that... well

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@InspectorCaracal a lot of people basically are quick to celebrate jim crow in the name of being progressive and it makes me roll my eyes out of my head every time

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@wigglytuffitout since i live 3.5 miles from the nearest bus stop -- which runs only 6x/day -- I agree with this concern x1000

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