anyway, discourse? you want discourse? HERE'S the discourse
P.S. THIS ALSO GOES FOR MIQOTE IN FFXIV AND OTHER CATGIRLS
LOOK AT MY CATGIRL. SHE HAS THE LONG FLOOFY TAIL.
HER PUBES?
SIMILARLY MAGNIFICENT.
HAURCHEFANT GLADLY FLOSSED HIS TEETH MANY A TIME DOWN THERE.
IF YOU AIN'T GONNA AT LEAST GIVE A LANDING STRIP, YOU A COWARD
anyway, discourse? you want discourse? HERE'S the discourse
if you're a furry artist and you draw some furry lewds and yet somehow the genitals are MYSTERIOUSLY FUR-FREE in texture and presentation, especially if there's just a vagina hangin out there all like Whoops! No Hair! No Pubic Hair Would Ever Happen To A Furry!
you are a COWARD and a KNAVE and a FOOL
and i challenge you to a DUEL. PISTOLS. AT DAWN, SIRRAH. AT DAWN
@Dayglochainsaw express concerns compassionately, and in ways that are useful. you will probably find that you can help in ways you didn't know about, or that you might have more concrete knowledge about. or you might find reassurance that quiets your worries.
take compassion, reflect it out, turn it in towards yourself, too.
it's ok to just not understand. it's not ok to be an asshole about it.
right, that's my sermon for tonight lmfao
@Dayglochainsaw it is a very efficient way to hurt the other person by making them feel like you view an essential element they value highly in themselves as bullshit, and make them entrench deeper into what you may genuinely be worried is behavior reinforcing mental illness.
it is also not kind to yourself, to treat relating to other humans this way.
@Dayglochainsaw if you're worried about a particular person exhibiting some behavior, and if that behavior is detrimental to their mental health, think about if it is truly useful or kind to go "you really think you're a kitten or whatever?! that's so stupid!", and similar attitudes, such as "hate me all you want! it's good! i WANTED you to hate me! it's GOOD that people are hating me over some TRIVIAL BULLSHIT THAT DOESN'T MATTER!"
is that useful?
is that kind?
to them? to you?
@Dayglochainsaw no single entity on this earth - human, goldfish, what fucking ever - is going to be able to perfectly understand *everything*. i'm never going to know what it's like for a bat to process the world via echolocation - i literally ain't got the neurons for it.
it is terrifying to admit that we can be measured and found wanting. but *everything* is found wanting in one aspect or another.
extend the compassion around to yourself and just go, "i don't get it, and that's ok."
@Dayglochainsaw a quick thought, from someone who is non-kin and also had trouble with this:
i realized that i didn't need to understand perfectly in order to respect it.
it might confuse me, baffle me, and make my brain BSOD. but they understand it, and it is very important to them. it is an essential part of them.
i can be befuddled, but i remember the love i have for my kin friends, and the compassion i try to extend to others, and go "i don't understand and that's ok."
it's freeing.
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@Dayglochainsaw in other words - if kin folks are getting cancelled for promoting mental illness in your mind, shouldn't you get cut with the same sword by this promotion of "well at least i've started a fight and isolated myself, that's a totally good and valid way to go about such goals and a coping strategy i should promote explicitly by way of justifying my actions to everyone and assuring myself i am in the right"? after all, you are also promoting mental illness.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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@Dayglochainsaw basically, if your argument against kin folk is "this seems like glorification of mental illness and i'm not about that", to then go and use self-sabotage as a coping strategy is a bit weak, right?
it may be that the issue here is *not* you understanding kin folk, but instead you needing to go "perhaps picking fights online is not a good and condusive thing for my mental health and i should not use this as a strategy in future".
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@Dayglochainsaw @mew i don't have a horse in this race, but it seems like this is contradictory, yeah?
either 1) you genuinely don't understand and were seeking understanding, willing to listen to those with knowledge in good faith
OR, 2) you wanted to say something inflammatory on purpose in order to push people away because you felt overwhelmed/decided that was a good coping strategy/etc.
it's either one or t'other, it cannot be both simultaneously here
spoonie whining
i don't want anything unreasonable, ok?
i dont need to run marathons
i dont mind being in some pain
i just want to be able to take more than two showers a week
i just want to be able to reliably get to eat 3 meals a day and not 2 or 1 or 0 and just have to graze on snacks because i'm so nauseated from being in pain
why is that so impossible
one of the great realizations of adulthood for me has been that i don't need to understand somebody to respect them
like... i'm not trans. i struggle to comprehend some aspects. or kin folks. or folks who enjoy doing math for fun. even if these concepts kind of make my brain go error 404 not found, it don't mean i gotta fight that shit. i can just say i can't relate and that's fine and i can be cool about it anyway.
30 y/o - token cishet - tumblr refugee. spoonie/15 chronic conditions in a trenchcoat/actual cyborg. just hangin' in there