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also considering xanthone as a building block? you can get that from salicylic acid, with a bit of foolery. might be a route to interesting polymers

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had the idea last night that you could probably get anthrone (that's 9,10-dihydro-9-oxoanthracene) from natural materials, and get that to self-condense, with a Knoevenagel-type condensation between the keto group and the benzylic carbon

this paper seems to indicate feasibility

sciencedirect.com/science/arti

salt about terrible established UI practices 

@thamesynne honestly? no drastic action in a user interface should be just one missed click away. especially seeing as how "global undo" isn't a thing anyone ever does, so reversing mistaken UI actions isn't automatically possible

thanks Apple! I am totally blaming you for this one

"hey look at my spiffy new microcomputer based on nanofluidics, made entirely out of renewable biopolymers!"

"damn that's sweet"

"it runs Arch Linux"

*drops it into the trash* "well at least it's biodegradable"

computeing, slightly tasteless apocalypse humor 

@diodelass d'ya think we'll continue to have access to semiconductor components

computeing, slightly tasteless apocalypse humor 

@diodelass well, I'm semi-optimistic that I'll live long enough to see the "personal computer" (at least as we currently have it) no longer a viable concept because the infrastructure supporting its manufacture and use has totally disintegrated. then it won't matter if we use Linux or Windows! ;=3

towards organic conducting polymers from biomass 

not that I've got anything against really speculative, off-the-wall academic chemistry papers; they can be fun reading. but it's...questionable, how much of that work has any hope of being scaled up into something that's industrial-grade

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towards organic conducting polymers from biomass 

thinking idly about how you'd go about making organic conducting polymers out of stuff that can be derived from biomass, or some other renewable feedstock

"green organic semiconductors" is a thing that you can find papers on but *laughs* bet most of of the papers are kinda rubbish. what an old chemist acquaintance (really fearsome old trans woman. Gargron banned her from here once! hahaha) once called magic pixie dust chemistry

computeing 

@diodelass eh maybe one day, for me. but Linux is still way way too hostile for me

tried it again recently, just got battered back into the Windows camp, as always. too much shit just not working right and I have no patience for the kind of tinkering that Linux people seem to think of as fun

@TheRealKylee @kara_dreamer@plural.cafe now I like this sound of _this_ idea! this is just the sort of transformation of how we think about industrial products that we need. people are gonna try too hard to keep the old methods alive

@kara_dreamer The book Cradle to Cradle Design (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle) is about designing objects that can be completely recycled and remade indefinitely (as opposed to current recycling practices where quality degrades every cycle), and it's printed on a biodegradable resin composite material.

A visitor to Niels Bohr’s cottage noticed a horseshoe nailed over the door.

“Surely you don’t expect that a horseshoe will bring good luck?” asked the visitor.

“No, I don’t,” Bohr said. “But they say it works even if you don’t believe in it.”

my goblin cooking trick 

a good meal is made of starch (thing that fill my belley), sauce (tastey), and chunks (meat or veggie for Healths)
cook chunks and starch. combine them. add sauce. heat until correct heat. congrat of lations you have Cooked

Could you recommend me any books (fiction/nonfiction) that helped you to either

* self-reflect,
* strongly reconsider the relation between yourself and the society you live in,
* or grow/change as a person?

If yes, which book(s)?

(Boosts welcome, I guess.)

food chemistry: basic nutritional analysis 

now here's a fun topic. kinda wonder if they've got some magically easy methods now. seems like they can use mass spectrometry for literally EVERYTHING these days, even proteins and DNA and other macromolecules. just zap a sample somehow, sort out the gas-phase ions

but what about the other end, low-tech methods

like, I think you can estimate fats in foodstuffs simply by extraction with methylene chloride or similar

@kara_dreamer@plural.cafe I think it might be possible to process paper of any sort into, like, threadlike shreds, and you could turn those into new paper basically. it'd be nice to get a more consistent, uh, unit fragment I guess

I almost feel like assigning you homework, @kara_dreamer@plural.cafe ;=D

design me a machine that will turn waste paper into sheets of recycled paper (not white paper, just...sheets of papery stuff), using an absolute minimum of process water

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