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Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

I really wish the footage for Power of the Daleks still existed... the reconstruction is really hard to watch.

I was planning on watching the animated version of this story afterwards, but I think I'm going to be too drained to watch this same story over again, so maybe I'll try watching it after a long break.

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

nearly 2 weeks after starting, I finally got through The Power of the Daleks.

It's not a bad story, but it's just.... hard to watch something that's missing so much footage.

In my guide I gave it a maybe: averylychee.neocities.org/doct

because (while I haven't watched all of it) the animated version would be a really good watch

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

I'm noticing that, in general, the stories that are completely missing are usually not worth watching at all

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

And now: The Highlanders, which is also completely missing.

Fun Trivia: The Highlanders is the last* of the "historical" stories – the show was originally conceived as having a mixture of historical stories (to teach kids history) and sci fi stories. But the historical stories were hated by the production team, and rarely were as engaging as the sci-fi stories, so they were abandoned - all subsequent stories set in the past also contained a sci-fi element.

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

footnote: while not intended to be an educational story, one of the 5th doctor stories was set in the past and contained no sci-fi element.

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4], question about possible transphobia 

So there's a section in this story where the doctor dresses up as an old woman to get passed some guards. Should I make a note of this in my reccomendation, or should I just ignore it?

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

The highlanders was pretty good!

It's definitely one of the stories that I wish hadn't been destroyed, because even though it's a historical story, it's quite entertaining.

Next: The Underwater Menace.

It took me a while to track down a copy of Episode 2, which was thought to be destroyed until 2011.

Unfortunately, my source for all the other episodes seems to come from the mid 2000s, so it didn't include this episode

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

"They're going to carry out the fish operation on her!"

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

The Underwater Menace: finished

(see the site for a review: averylychee.neocities.org/doct )

next up: The Moonbase

which is the second story about the Cybermen

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

I decided not to watch it today, and instead do something else for a bit

Classic Doctor Who 

I watched some clips of "Inferno", a 3rd doctor story, and.... hmm.

I thought Inferno was terrible when I last watched it, but these clips are exciting, and interesting - quite a bit more than some of the 2nd doctor eps I've recommended.

I see 3 options:

* inferno is not as bad as I thought, and I was just unncessarily harsh to it
* inferno is bad, and I need to be harsher on the older episodes
* inferno is bad, but the badness is not reflected in the clips

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

I was watching an episode, and I thought I found a plot hole, but then I realised that I had just gotten confused.

It's very strange that there are 2 cybermen stories in the same season, though!

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

Episode 1: "The hurricane is in the atlantic ocean"
Episode 2: "We've got to keep the hurricane in the pacific!"

h-how did they make this error?

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

this is a very interesting premise: there's a moonbase with a device for a gravitron. They use it to control Earth's weather - make it rain over crops, keep it clear over beaches.

But something is going wrong, and if they don't fix the fault, then the Earth's weather will become disastrously chaotic

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

aaAAAAAAA

holy heck that was a good twist

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

The Moonbase: rather good!

And the reconstructions don't harm it much – I'm thinking that I'm going to need my guide to make a distinction between a partial reconstruction and a full reconstruction - full reconstructions are very difficult to watch, and require a lot of dedication.

Classic Doctor Who :: (small) feedback request 

ok, I've added the different indicators for partial reconstructions (as opposed to full reconstructions) - if you've got a spare minute, could you go take a look and give me some feedback?

averylychee.neocities.org/doct

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

Watching The Macra Terror

oooo, new titles!

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

oh yeah, I finished The Macra Terror. It was alright, but I wish the episodes still existed, instead of the reconstruction.

There's only 2 more stories left in Season 4, so I'm getting through this faster than I expected to!

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

The Faceless Ones includes new opening music, to go with the new opening titles.

Gosh, it's weird for these to change after 166 episodes of them being the same...

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

also, I just realised I'm 20% of the way through!

gosh!!

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

The Faceless Ones is really creepy so far...

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

oh jeez it's getting even creepier.... this is so good...

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

choosing a rating for The Faceless Ones is so difficult...

I really really want to give it a "Highly Recommended" rating, but it's partially a reconstruction. It's still incredibly tense and incredibly creepy, and really really really good, but it still.... isn't as good as it would have been.

Some of the missing stories I don't mind being missing - The Myth Makers, for example, is not very good.

But The Faceless Ones is such a good story and so so creepy...

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

The next story: The Evil of the Daleks.

This story was supposed to be the last Dalek story ever – Terry Nation wanted to pitch a Dalek spinoff show to American TV statiosn, so this was written to get rid of them.

The daleks would return, of course, but not for 5 years. (prior to this point, there had been at least 1 dalek story every year).

Classic Doctor Who, timing 

hmm, I'm either going to have to watch 688 episodes before October, or.... skip ahead for a bit and then jump back

Because I haven't seen the last season of the 12th Doctor (Peter Capaldi) and I want to see that before I watch this years season, featuring the 13th Doctor (Jodie Whittaker)

Classic Doctor Who, timing 

wait, I don't have any way to watch the new season as it comes out, nevermind

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

The Evil of the Daleks is surprisingly slow-paced so far.

It's not monotonous, but it is slow.

The reconstruction team went to a lot more effort for this one, too - they've filmed new segments, they've created a cgi version of one of the sets, in order to animate daleks in it... it's quite impressive

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

I do like how all the early dalek stories are quite different from each other - they're not just repeating the same plot over and over again

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

I actually really liked The Evil of the Daleks, even though it's mostly missing.

I've updated my guide to have a review for this, and also to downgrade The Highlanders to a "maybe" – not because it's bad, but because it's not as good relative to the other episodes I gave a "watch" rating to in this season.

I'm somewhat worried that I've become a little gentler and forgiving on the episodes than I was in the last season, but maybe this season is just better.

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 4] 

and that's the end of season 4!

time to make a new promo post

☄ Classic Doctor Who ☄
====================

Want to watch Classic Doctor Who, but don't want to slog through the boring episodes?

Check out my guide!

averylychee.neocities.org/doct

Now with updated recommendations for the first 4 seasons! That's 169 episodes!

Classic Doctor Who 

I think I figured out the reason why most of the early stories start with "The"

It's because, internally, all the scripts were named "Doctor Who and <story name>"

So even though "Tomb of the Cybermen" is a perfectly good title, it would look weird to have a script called "Doctor who and Tomb of the Cybermen", so they put a "The" at the start.

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5] 

In The Tomb of the Cybermen, the Doctor claims to be 450 years old

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5] 

I've uploaded my rating for Tomb of the Cyberman

it's the first Highly Recommended story in quite a while, and it.... really is very good

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5] 

The Abominable Snowmen was set in the Himalayas, and so was scheduled to be filmed on the Welsh mountain of Snowdon during a snowy period.

But the week before (and the week of) shooting, it didn't snow - it rained. So the outdoor shops are not as snowy as was desired, and the ground was muddy which made filming difficult

Classic Doctor Who, racism, question 

So far in my guide, I've used "blackface" and "yellowface" when actors have been dressed in those - but I'm considering replacing them with a term that's more generic.

Maybe "racial makeup"?

Classic Doctor Who, racism, question 

better idea: less generic, but more specific. Instead of

"This story contains an actor in yellowface", I can write
"This story contains a white actor in makeup to make them appear Asian"

Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

I'd love to write fanfiction for classic doctor who.... except, I'd have to use the same companions.

For modern Doctors, there are periods of time where they are offscreen and have no companions (for example, after Rose slips into an alternate universe, the Tenth Doctor travels alone for an unspecified amount of time before finally meeting Martha).

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Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

The official novels/audio plays/comics often introduce their own characters, who go on adventures with the Doctor in these in-between times. It means the authors can write their own unique companions and have their own adventures. Fanfiction does this too, of course.

But in the classic series, the companions are always continuous

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Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

For the Second Doctor:
* Ben and Polly are companions from before
* Then, Jamie is introduced
* Then, Ben and Polly leave
* Then Victoria joins
* Then Victoria leaves
* Then Zoe joins

There's no space there for the Doctor to have a writer's own companions, because Jamie is always there!

The only time the 2nd doctor doesn't have Jamie as a companion is in the one story when Ben and Polly are the only companions

Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

anyway I want to write fanfiction with The Doctor and my own companions, but there's no way for that to fit into cannon

Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

heck, I just looked at this timeline:
cabletv.com/blog/doctor-who-ti

Aside from the revived series doctors, only the 4th doctor has a gap that you could theoretically use to put your own companions in

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Abominable Snowmen] 

I am not enjoying The Abominable Snowmen very much, tbh

Classic Doctor Who (meta) 

One thing I worry about with my guide is that my ratings are different to other people's.

Doctor Who fans generally want me to put more things into the "watch" category, whereas people who haven't experienced much Doctor Who generally want me to put less...

(Although, there has been one instance where I put a story into "watch" originally, because of nostalgia, but a fan was like "uhh.... no? That's one of the worst stories" and they were right)

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Abominable Snowmen] 

This.… doesn't make sense?

The yeti are being controlled by The Great Intelligence, which has this really complicated plan:

1. Have the 5 items required to complete the plan.
2. Give one of them to the monestary for safekeeping
3. Set everything else up over centuries, until finally ready for the item from the monestary.

ok, makes sense so far? And they have someone at the monestary who is following their commands, so it should be easy

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Abominable Snowmen] 

4. Intentionally send a yeti towards the monestary for no reason, causing you to lose one of the required items.
5. Send more yetis later to get it back
6. THEN send the person at the monestary with the final item.

What???

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Abominable Snowmen] 

wait hold on, I just remembered that there were 2 spheres:

the one that the great intelligence lost in step 4, and one that Jamie stole (unintentinally) at some point.

But the one that was stolen was left in the monastery, why not just get the monk who follows orders to bring it back too?

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Abominable Snowmen] 

I finished The Abominable Snowmen. Surprising no-one, my recommendation is "Don't Watch"

Next is The Ice Warriors.

Petty complaint: "Ice Warriors" and "Abominable Snowmen" are concepts that are too close together, mentally, and I keep having to take a moment to figure out which one I'm watching.

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Ice Warriors] 

There are quite a few early Doctor Who stories that are anti-computer, and I'm not entirely sure where that sentiment comes from

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Ice Warriors] 

ok, this is getting really obnoxious.

I'm all for not blindly trusting computers, but at one point the Doctor does some maths on some pieces of paper, and is offended that they would double-check his results with a computer.

That's exactly the situation the doctor SHOULD be ok with – because if there's a descrepancy, then we know that either the original maths was wrong, or the computer was wrong, and from there we can fix things.

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Ice Warriors] 

(Spoilers below)

Episode 3 cliffhanger:
The Ice Warriors are aiming a gun at Victoria
Ice Warrior 1: we are ready to fire

Episode 4 begins:
Ice Warrior 1: we are ready to fire
Ice Warrior 2: ... not yet.

Wow. What a great cliffhanger. Thanks. /sarcasm

Classic Doctor Who :: [an aside (Season 1)] 

hmm, thinking about The Reign of Terror again.... maybe I should downgrade it from "Watch" to "Maybe"

It wasn't bad, I'm just not sure that people would enjoy it enough to keep watching through it

Classic Doctor Who :: [an aside (re-rankings)] 

I went back through the first 4 seasons, and choosing to re-rank a few of them:

The Reign of Terror :: Yes → Maybe
It's really not that good, and I'm unsure why I ranked it so highly in the first place

The Crusade :: Yes → Maybe
As I was scrolling through the list, I realised that I had forgotten this story even existed - any story that forgettable is not worth a "Yes" (even if it does have one of the best acted scenes from the early show)

Classic Doctor Who :: [an aside (re-rankings)] 

The Gunfighters :: Yes → Maybe
I ranked this higher because I had fond memories, but they didn'thold up to reality

The Savages :: Yes → Maybe
While it was an entertaining watch, it also positioned the Doctor as inherently more "moral"

Classic Doctor Who :: [an aside (re-rankings)] 

I'm still thinking about The Keys of Marinus.

Because in the context of "all stories told"? It's kinda bad. Like.... quite bad.

But it's also the best example of the stories being told in Season 1, so if you said "I can only watch one story from this season", I'd say "The Keys of Marinus", regardless of its many flaws

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Ice Warriors] 

It's been a week since I watched any Doctor Who, and tbh taking a break was a good idea, if unintentional.

I both love and hate The Ice Warriors. I love it because it's well done, but I hate it because it's constant moralising is grating.

I gave it a "maybe" in my recommendations: averylychee.neocities.org/doct

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Enemy of the World] 

Next up is The Enemy of the World.

I'm somewhat excited to see if this is any good, because this is a story that was found in 2013, *after* the last time I watched Doctor Who.

Also, it's set in 2018
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Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Enemy of the World] 

Patrick Troughton is an incredible actor... Not only is he convincingly playing 2 different characters, he's also playing those characters imitating each other

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Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

@lizardsquid seems like this is less of a problem with classic doctor who and more of a problem with jamie, specifically

Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

@00dani 2nd doctor has the simplest example, but it's a problem with the first as well:

* Ian, Barbara, and Susan all join on the first adventure
* Susan leaves
* Vicki joins
* Ian and Barbara leave; Steven joins
* Vicki leaves
* Katarina joins then dies; Sarah joins then dies
* Dodo joins
* Steven leaves
* Ben and Polly join; Dodo leaves

At all points there are companions

Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

@lizardsquid Is there that much of a problem with prefacing the thing with "I had to depart from canon in X way to make room for this to fit"? Aside from not wanting to?

Also, as I understand the stories are linear in how the doctors experience them (but not at all through time) but are they continuous? Is it not possible for the doctor to be faffing around while the companion(s) have some down time?

Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

@BatElite in the classic series, the companions couldn't leave the TARDIS without also leaving the Doctor forever - the doctor didn't have control of the destination, so could never go back to pick them up, even if they wanted to

Classic Doctor Who, slight annoyance, fanfiction 

@BatElite but yeah, I could be like "this fanfiction isn't cannon", but that feels less fun

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Ice Warriors] 

@lizardsquid Symbols of big impersonal bureaucracy, which was on the increase in the post-War years of growth?

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Ice Warriors] 

@lizardsquid Or just anti-humanist in general - coldly calculating, associated with the kind of impersonal science that created the atomic bomb.

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Ice Warriors] 

@ghost_bird @lizardsquid

Maybe simply "Sucking the life out of people who are interested in them." because non-nerds didn't understand what could be so fascinating about them. *shrugs*

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Ice Warriors] 

@CheshireEmber @lizardsquid I don't think computers as an interest was really in the public consciousness in 1967, though.

Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Ice Warriors] 

@ghost_bird @lizardsquid

Well, I just outed myself as non-(classic)-whovian, I guess.

I'd really profit from this thread, tbh.

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Classic Doctor Who :: [Season 5 → The Enemy of the World] 

@lizardsquid
And partly in Australia iirc

@lizardsquid There’s been speculation that the Great Intelligence is a Lovecraftian Elder God (probably Nyarlathotep, given the name, but I can’t remember). If you want help suspending your disbelief, think of it as “it doesn’t make sense because you’re not supposed to be able to understand it.”

Of course, this doesn’t work when the plots get wacky *without* Elder God influence. By the ‘80s you’ll be in full MST3K mode.

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