maple classic™ 
other webdevs: css sucks! im gonna do everything in javascript
me: *in the middle of typing up an extremely complicated 500-line css file* whats javascript
@squirrel honestly it probably results in you making better web stuff
so many web devs put far too much stuff in javascript
@squirrel I think CSS is really cool and I absolutely cannot wrap my mind around anything but the most basic functionality. 😅
@squirrel Fellow web designer here agreeing with you. In my experience, JS isn't so great for mobile platforms, not to mention those who might disable it on any device to improve loading times and security. Bells and whistles don't always make things better; oftentimes they just bloat the page size and make it a slower load. If your website(/game/app/etc) doesn't display properly for most -- if not all -- users, that's bad coding.
@shagoli im not making any statement here other than i dont know javascript like other people do
@squirrel OH well same hat on that too eheheh
honestly though i don't know anything but basic javascript and jquery and whenever people do obfuscated stuff or like canvas stuff (like codl's confetti thing we added here) it just makes me feel so incompetent