maple classic™ 
i wish i had the patience and knowledge of linux wms to configure a wm i like but linux is absolutely cryptic
mate is ok but it's hard to find the programs i want other than memorizing terminal lines
fvwm was nice but crashed too much
xfce has good usability but looks awful
plus gnome themes just suck a lot and for some reason absolutely none of them use the gnome color customization on mate
like any theme i throw at it shows the theme's colors but actually changing them is grayed out like what's the point
anyway this is me griping about a thing in my usual frustrated fashion of "if i can't do it it must mean it's impossible and anyone telling me otherwise is lying" because i have bad mental health hi how's your day
i don't want to turn help away
it's just that a lot of suggestions aren't of any actual help
@squirrel i can help you if you have specific questions but not _right_ now
@squirrel feel free to like
send me a backlog of questions
@squirrel like, what are your specific goals? just changing the colors on this theme? because, like, once i know what theme it is i can try mirroring your setup locally and helping you out
@er1n i honestly dont know im sorry
i don't know what i want
i'll know when i see it but i can't picture it in my head
there's just a lot of tiny things about my setup i don't like
i probably need to format my hard drive and lose everything to replace xubuntu with actual ubuntu mate for mate to work properly anyway
and i don't think i even want mate
like my ideal system would be irix i guess but fvwm fatally crashes too much and maxx desktop is dead
@er1n im going to bed soon so maybe another day sorry
i dont know what questions i have
"how do i make things purple" i guess
@squirrel I'm happy to help, not right now as octopus needs sleep, but setting things up is like my favourite thing to do
@squirrel nope, you're definitely right about it being impossibe
@squirrel it is a serious issue with desktop linux tbh - none of the default desktop environments are worth a crap if you don't want their default everything and aren't willing to learn their One True Way of doing it by hand using scattered instructions in long dead forums.
It's not just you, bunbot 
if you have any desire at all to actually hands-on help me make my linux desktop experience more enjoyable please let me know
people who will just link me to a thing and not personally help me set it up need not apply