Harp the Wigglytuff @wigglytuffitout@computerfairi.es

@InspectorCaracal @oct2pus @brainblasted it's all bad and everything's awful and i'm ordering a goddamn dessert but i'll ask 'em to bring two extra spoons. whose round is it to buy again

this is it, this is my telltale heart, it's just me howling as i roll around in anguish about how purism is not only shit at being ethical, but shit at doing a software, and also really shit at doing a capitalism

THESE PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN BE MONEY-GRUBBING EVIL RIGHT

@InspectorCaracal @oct2pus @brainblasted also a distinct lack of understanding of *why this old way is the old way* - which makes me want to tear out my hair and scream on the floor in an entirely different way. the market forces shifted for reasons away from that oldschool style, and for reasons they should probably want to, like, know about, instead of just going "what do you mean there's not the same market for bespoke horsewhips there was now than there was in 1809"

@Shrigglepuss if they have a customer service number or email, i would try there first

then you can also explain "i am cancelling because x", which might be valuable. (probably only via email though, if they are outsourcing who is the customer service phone mook.)

@purism@librem.one "we're an ethical company who won't track you like google! except for when we let google track you, of course..."

good grief, this shitshow grows additional laters by the fucking minute.

@InspectorCaracal it seems like purism has no idea how PEOPLE works, and does not care

like... listen, even if i were being a pure capitalist asshole, you know what ISN'T a compelling strategy for making new sales in the forms of additional sign-up accounts, and especially RETAINING those accounts for more $$ over time?

"come on down to our toxic shithole! you'll have a really bad time!"

i mean like. come the fuck on. if you're abandoning morality for money, at least actually do it in the way that gets you money, not the ways that are just going to be doomed i mean jfc it's so stupid my head hurts

@oct2pus what makes it maddening is that i think we're at a tipping point where consumers are more and more aware that legality =/= morality, AND that consumers are wanting to no longer accept "we do as required by law and no more". it's why mastodon exists! heck, it's why purism exists, and that's the market they're trying to get money from!

it's bonkers. why would you say you weren't part of a bubble while also banking on that bubble continuing so you can profit?? 6_9

(i mean, idk if their encryption works like that. i'm a bio/english major ok? i took one semester of java for non cs majors for my math requirement. but i'm just sayin', if a company like purism sells stuff with "you're safe with us, pinky promise we swear!" and then pulls these boneheaded stunts that show their definition of "ethics" is bass-ackwards, i would not trust that pinky promise very much.)

honestly reading the ad copy, it feels like the market for these services are "people who know just enough that privacy is good, but not more." they're aiming to be the America Online of internet privacy, all made easy.

...but declaring you're letting bigotry happen because you get money for it is not good ethics.

with that obvious, i don't think any of their other claims - not accessing data, etc. - can really be trusted.

so - it's a dangerous product, and warnings should go out accordingly.

honestly, with @brainblasted talking to the admins and the admins making it clear their stance is pro-bigotry in the "well mneh mneh we just luv freeze peach too much so we can't do anything to stooop that" way, i'd urge everyone to be really vocal that #purism / #libremone are now selling dangerous products

the some products might even be good! but paying for the security of a gated community means nothing when the guard knows your roommate's a serial killer, and does nothing about it.

@brainblasted hahaha oh wow i thought the neat exclusion of their CoC was bad and it's worse holy SHIT.

this is not particularly funny mind you i'm just at the stage where you have to laugh at the utter fucking absurdity of this being ~*eThIcS oNLiNe*~. fucking amazing

@chartier @sydneyfalk don't worry, i'm thinking the silicon valley salesman moving on to the benefits of raw water will probably a least make them slow down a bit

as they're in the toilet with beaver fever, but, y'know, i'll take what i can get

@chartier @sydneyfalk i mean i think that's the definition of a good 99% of silicon valley.

"i never needed x, so nobody will need x. let's innovate past it! :) "

at some point the absolute dearth of empathy for other people, listening to other people, considering other viewpoints, or even just thinking logically about why things exist, all melds together into a wonderful ball of shit so rank even dungbeetles refuse to move it, and we are all made worse for existing in the world that it does

@sydneyfalk y e p.

whether they're shitters themselves, or just willing to look the other way if they get their money at the end of the day, i don't know. and i don't know if it even matters.

and this is the company that's selling all their other products on "ethics!" because "we promise, we won't ever access your account or do evil things... we're ethical! ethics! :) please give us money for being good good ethics boys."

lmao yea cool they're gonna sell shit in a heartbeat with this attitude

i should probably stop throwing popcorn at techbros but it's a distraction ok

my pupdog got up from a nap limping on one of her back legs, and it's kinda worrying me, but she doesn't seem to be in pain, will let me touch it, still very much wants food, etc. etc. and this has happened before with a foot where i flipped out and took her to the vet..... .......the next day when she was totally fine and the vet found nothing lol

i may see if half a rimadyl (doggo advil basically) helps in a min

@InspectorCaracal honestly i'm sure you could

either that or my initial assessment is right and purism/librem.one is being run by a marketing manager who saw it as a great moneymaking opportunity, but tried to learn a little of the lingo to smooth over the con, and put on an audiobook about online ethics on while he slept, but it skipped and repeated one bit

so now he can only say 'ethics', rather like